ProdigyCustoms
08-11-2007, 09:28 AM
There has been much talk lately about Air Bar / G Bar combined with Mini Tubs with big tires. For those that do not know, the Chris Alston G bar is a Air Ride Air Bar but with Vari Shock Coil overs instead of Shockwaves. So what works with a Air bar will work with a G Bar. I belive this is the best 4 link system out there, and certainly the easiest to install, with the least fabrication, I want to put any misconceptions or confusions to rest.
There has been a lot of talk and confusion about weather these systems will fit a Mini Tub application? Weather these systems will clear our beloved 335 and 345 tires? Weather custom arms or fabrication are necessary?
So Air Ride sent us a Air Bar set up for Lisa's project EmptyNest, which is a minitub car running the biggest performance radials you can buy, 345 / 30 / 19 tires, on a 12" rim with a 6" backspace. We sell a lot of Air bar / G Bars, so we and the Air Ride crew wanted a end all, yes it will, no it won't, determination on what does and does not fit.
I am just getting started and attached a few pics, but the initial preliminary answer is a Yes, you can run a Air Bar / G Bar with a mini tub and 345 tires. I will continue in a installation type format over the next few days, but here is what I have so far.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0312.jpg
We are using the tires and wheels from Michael's Project Prodigy for mock up purposes until our custom Forgeline's get here. Michael's tires are 345 / 25 / 20 on 12" rims with a 7" backspace, you can see there is plenty of clearance. These tires have a 13.6 section width, within a 1'4" or so of 345 / 30 / 19s and 335 / 30 / 18s which are so popular.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0314.jpg
Another angle shows a little better the amount of clearance. We intentionally for these photos have no yet installed the trunk floor,
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0316.jpg
You can see with a 7" backspace wheel it is 7 /2 inches to the closest axle bracket bolt. Michael's Prodigy uses this 7" backspace because of the Corvette rear. Most Mini tub cars use a 6" backspace. If this was the typical 6" backspace, it would be 6 1/2" to this first mount, which should leave plenty of clearance for even popular Big Ford Ends. I can only see a problem if someone tries run a real short backspace like 5" or less, which would put the rear mounting bracket on top of the Ford Bearing end.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC01945.jpg
There is 2 inches clearance between the outside bar and the inner most section of the tire. So there is plenty of clearance for even more tire, but the mini tubs are going to limit more tire.
There has been a lot of talk and confusion about weather these systems will fit a Mini Tub application? Weather these systems will clear our beloved 335 and 345 tires? Weather custom arms or fabrication are necessary?
So Air Ride sent us a Air Bar set up for Lisa's project EmptyNest, which is a minitub car running the biggest performance radials you can buy, 345 / 30 / 19 tires, on a 12" rim with a 6" backspace. We sell a lot of Air bar / G Bars, so we and the Air Ride crew wanted a end all, yes it will, no it won't, determination on what does and does not fit.
I am just getting started and attached a few pics, but the initial preliminary answer is a Yes, you can run a Air Bar / G Bar with a mini tub and 345 tires. I will continue in a installation type format over the next few days, but here is what I have so far.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0312.jpg
We are using the tires and wheels from Michael's Project Prodigy for mock up purposes until our custom Forgeline's get here. Michael's tires are 345 / 25 / 20 on 12" rims with a 7" backspace, you can see there is plenty of clearance. These tires have a 13.6 section width, within a 1'4" or so of 345 / 30 / 19s and 335 / 30 / 18s which are so popular.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0314.jpg
Another angle shows a little better the amount of clearance. We intentionally for these photos have no yet installed the trunk floor,
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0316.jpg
You can see with a 7" backspace wheel it is 7 /2 inches to the closest axle bracket bolt. Michael's Prodigy uses this 7" backspace because of the Corvette rear. Most Mini tub cars use a 6" backspace. If this was the typical 6" backspace, it would be 6 1/2" to this first mount, which should leave plenty of clearance for even popular Big Ford Ends. I can only see a problem if someone tries run a real short backspace like 5" or less, which would put the rear mounting bracket on top of the Ford Bearing end.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC01945.jpg
There is 2 inches clearance between the outside bar and the inner most section of the tire. So there is plenty of clearance for even more tire, but the mini tubs are going to limit more tire.