Notching stck front frame for tire clearance 69 Camaro.

[Leadfoot1]

....Like title says,

What do you think? I was looking at my front sub and i was wondering why that was never done? (Or at least i never saw it done!)

It seems to me i could cut and box that thing in the front and in the rear where the tire would hit at full lock and gain a few precious inches... It could also be done to look nice and all business.

All that because a friend had gotten 275's for the front of is ('69, too) car and was going to use an aftermarket front sub and has got to change his plan because of many reasons, but he is still in with the tires...So that got me thinking.

Anyone saw this done, comments or idea why it would not be a good idea?

Seems to me thats the only thing keeping us away fron a bigger front patch...

Lead.

[Jimmy Sean]

I saw it once it was on this site or pro-touring. There was a couple of pictures but I don't recall much discussion about it though. I will see if I can find the thread, id I do I will post a link.

Found it http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20901&highlight=notch+frame

[Leadfoot1]

Hey Sean,

THANKS!!! Thats exactly what i was thinking about! How to save mondo cash huh?!!! This is why i love those forums...Ask, thats all thats needed!

Thanks again,

Anyone with comments or ideas still welcomed to share!

Link sent to buddy, but copy for me also....Now, how wide can i go on my 19 x 8.5 w/ 5.2" ??? Time to check i guess.(changing the rear piece of the wheel before even hitting the road...well thats a usual no?!) :willy: :lol:

Lead.

[Gandalf]

VERY timely info guys. :hail: I was litterally coming on here to start asking about 69 Camaro subframes. I've already powdercoated my subframe and bought a pile of aftermarket suspension for it. The car is now being minitubbed and a 4-link going in, I want her sitting nice and low with some big feet. Seems I need to rethink the front to match the low and wide wheels/tire theme.

So I started thinking about selling everything I had bought already for the front and just getting a complete assembly (DSE / Morrison etc') but that's a crapload of cash ($5k-$6k):wow: . Many great things about going that route (handling & rack being two of them) but given the goal is 90% street car, there's probably a LOT I can do with my stock frame for a LOT less money and still meet the same goals. So this thread is perfect. I've since noticed some imperfections in the subframe so it needs to be welded on and re-coated anyways. I'm going to take the subframe to my welder/suspension guy and ask what he thinks:unibrow: .

Thanks for the link Sean - good to know someone has been here before me and done same.

If it works out - I'll take some photos as we go:thumbsup: .

Cheers guys!
G.

[speedfreak]

Do it!!!

I am looking at doing the same to a 68 I am working on.

There is plenty of beef in the frame should be a piece of cake.

Brian

[68protouring454]

theres no need to notch a stock frame, you can run a 18x9.5 with just a steering stop and a small decrease in turning radius, carlc drives the hell out of his car on track and street and runs 9.5 wide wheels and 275/35/18 at all 4 corners, check his site out

[Leadfoot1]

Yeah but his car sits a little high imo....So i'm thinking the notch would help on that side (?)

Lead.

[68protouring454]

mark magers car lateral one also had 275's on the front with a stock sub you got air ride right? who cares when your driving
http://www.lateral-g.net/members/magers/magers3.jpg

[Leadfoot1]

I want to ride low all the time. Thats the problem i have. (I'm not into 4 wheeling;) )

My idea is that by slicing the frame a bit i (maybe) could run short A- arms and/ or change to an even more agressive backspacing wheel to pull the tire in as it would give me the clearance i'm losing on the outside back on the inside . 'Still running low, but with a wide patch that has the space to move around.

Just trying to see if its feasible and if its a good idea...

Now that just got me to think about track width. How does that effect the whole thing?

Lead.

[Bowtieracing]

Lead i am happy you took this up! I have been asking this same several times without any real info of notching stock frame. Do you remember twister ? It had 275s(?) at front and A arms ( and frame??) was modified . So notching cant be that hard to do.

[Lance-w]

Did you re-inforce inside the frame where you cut the chunk out? I assume from the pictures that you welded in a ~1/8" plate to fill the part you cut out? I'm right at the point of notching my subframe and was thinking of seriously re-inforcing the area with internal ribs to carry the load around the notch? Seemed like this would elimate any stresses in the area of the notch?