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Old 05-14-2017, 12:26 PM
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Default Help with vintage air

Ok I got frustrated with charging my vintage air system in my Camaro so I took it to a shop to have it charged. They said they were able to charge the system but the ac clutch wasn't in gauging. They said I wasn't getting power to the binary switch. When I got home and checked the power lead to the switch the where correct. I found I had not the connector out. Now, I have power getting to the binary switch but clutch still will not turn on. Wire is good going from binary switch to compressor, but it seems like the binary switch isn't working. How do I test the switch? Also, can I remove the switch without loosing the refrigerant?
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:56 PM
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Should be able to bypass the switch to make sure the compressor clutch is working. To replace the switch will require draining the system, it's under pressure.
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I just bypassed the switch and the clutch does work
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I just bypassed the switch and the clutch does work
If there's power to the binary switch but none coming out when commanded and the system is charged correctly it sounds like a bad switch.
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That's what I'm starting to think. For my sanity, how can I check to make sure system is charged correctly?
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Throw some gauges on it to make sure it is charged. I don't see how they could charge it when the clutch was not engaging but I am not an expert. I know that when I charge them they have to be running....

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Ok thanks. I wasn't sure about that either. I will try it tomorrow. Thanks
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dhutton,
Our AC recharging machine will charge without the vehicle running. Charges into the high side and the machine can build some extra pressure to get in the required amount.

Should be simple enough for most shops to drain and swap a switch quickly.
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Our AC recharging machine will charge without the vehicle running. Charges into the high side and the machine can build some extra pressure to get in the required amount.

Should be simple enough for most shops to drain and swap a switch quickly.
Thanks. That was the part I was unsure of.

Have to wonder why the shop could not troubleshoot a disconnected connector...

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Old 05-16-2017, 08:07 AM
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Normally, if we suspect a binary switch we do like you did, jump it and if the compressor kicks on (assuming you have a charge in the system) you know it's the switch.

I don't know the shop, but it is possible they didn't want to diagnose a system someone else installed. We get similar feelings when someone brings us something they put in and want us to fix it. It's hard not knowing how something was installed, most people we deal with are trying to save a buck and we end up having to redo nearly everything.

Not saying you don't know what you are doing, just giving a shop's perspective. Sometimes it's a simple fix, like a switch, sometimes the person didn't follow instructions and you spend 3-4 hours going through everything to make sure it's correct (wired directly to battery, no scotchlocks, etc etc)

Who knows, maybe they just had time for a recharge but not for a diagnosis!
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