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Old 06-29-2017, 11:02 AM
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If you come to a tree (or DBasher), turn!

The point of the loose entry with the road race bikes is interesting, in that many don't do much, if anything, with rear brakes. On an opposite note, my go-kart racing experience at Nola Motorsports park two weeks ago showed that only having rear brakes can definitely loosen up the corner entry experience. The look, upon corner entry, is quite similar between the two vehicles.

In one case, we have pretty much no weight on the rear end (bike), and in the other, we have nearly all the weight on the rear (kart), and in both cases, we have sliding rear wheels (and stuck fronts). Freakin' gravity . . .
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The TA swap was just a start. I'm no suspension Guru but I slept at a Holiday Inn the other night so here is the plan I came up with:

1 Call Ron Sutton
2 Put what he tells me to on the car.
3 Drive faster.
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I apologize for getting a little too technical in describing my plan.
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I figured you were dumbing it down for me, which I appreciate.

If I'm reading the rules right..it looks like suspension is pretty wide open as long as the frame isn't modified and the upper rear shock mounting point is retained.
"Control arm mounting points are unrestricted" Nice!

And a maximum tire of 275 as long as you don't exceed the track width...hmm.

Looking forward to another Sutton Mustang makeover.
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I figured you were dumbing it down for me, which I appreciate.

If I'm reading the rules right..it looks like suspension is pretty wide open as long as the frame isn't modified and the upper rear shock mounting point is retained.
"Control arm mounting points are unrestricted" Nice!

And a maximum tire of 275 as long as you don't exceed the track width...hmm.

Looking forward to another Sutton Mustang makeover.
Not isn't doing anything radical to try and stay within a budget. The MM suspension bits will be retained but the spring and bar rates will be optimized. A new set of shocks and struts from Ridetech will dampen things correctly. Lastly the panhard bar mounts will be redone to allow for adjustment and an optimized rrch and I will run camber, caster and toe settings spec'd

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Ron isn't doing anything radical to try and stay within a budget. The MM suspension bits will be retained but the spring and bar rates will be optimized. A new set of shocks and struts from Ridetech will dampen things correctly. Lastly the panhard bar mounts will be redone to allow for adjustment and an optimized rrch and I will run camber, caster and toe settings spec'd by Ron.
Phase 1 sounds perfect....
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If you come to a tree (or DBasher), turn!

The point of the loose entry with the road race bikes is interesting, in that many don't do much, if anything, with rear brakes. On an opposite note, my go-kart racing experience at Nola Motorsports park two weeks ago showed that only having rear brakes can definitely loosen up the corner entry experience. The look, upon corner entry, is quite similar between the two vehicles.

In one case, we have pretty much no weight on the rear end (bike), and in the other, we have nearly all the weight on the rear (kart), and in both cases, we have sliding rear wheels (and stuck fronts). Freakin' gravity . . .




You don't brake a go-kart in to a corner -- you downshift and accelerate!
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You don't brake a go-kart in to a corner -- you downshift and accelerate!
That right there is a lot of tech.
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I'm certain they will!!
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